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Lower than Bush: Republicans in Congress hit 25% job approval

Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:34 PM EST
politics
By Paul William Tenny

Republican job approval rating in Congress has been falling for all but the first two years of Bush's administration.

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I don't generally track approval ratings for Congress since they are usually unreliable, but today's numbers are actually pretty interesting because -- and I really didn't see this coming -- Republicans in Congress have lower approval ratings that President Bush does.

For December 12th-14th, 29% of the country (representative polling) still approves of the job the President is doing, which is likely to tick up as we get closer to the next administration's inauguration for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, conservatives that hold a dim view of Bush but do not hold strong feelings either way are very likely to be more forgiving towards his record of accomplishments, ruminating the good things and giving a free pass to the bad.

Moreover, Obama's inauguration will be a sore spot for them after having lost an election, and that old "my guy may have sucked, but he's way better than the other party" mentality is likely to excuse lesser failures and embarrassments.

While Bush still rests below 30%, President-elect Obama's transition favorables has risen to an all-time high of 75% even with four full days of coverage of the Illinois Governor scandal. It now appears unlikely that Obama will be hurt by Gov. Rod Blagojevich at all.

Congressional polling is a mixed bag on a number of levels, though. Typically, voters of the minority party will give extremely bad ratings regardless of what the Congress actually does, simply as a partisan, adolescent show of displeasure. This tends to happen with Republicans more than Democrats, so make of that what you will. Beyond that, voters of the majority party will also give low ratings for a lack of accomplishment which isn't always the fault of the party in power, but is credited to them nonetheless. These two things together means that Congress on a whole pretty much always has terrible ratings

That brings us to the Congressional approval ratings.

Just 25% of the country approves of the job that Republicans in Congress are doing, a new record low according to Gallup, down a point from the previous record low of 26% set by Republicans last year. The GOP has lost 34 points off their approval ratings since setting a high mark of 59% in 2002. Their job approval rating has dropped every single month since the beginning of the Iraq war. Republicans held a high of 55 seats in the Senate as of 2004, but will have either 42, or 41 depending on the outcome of the disputed race in Minnesota come January -- this represents a loss of nearly one quarter of their ranks in four years, a loss exceeded only by their approval numbers.

In comparison, Democrats have suffered falling ratings over that period as well, though not nearly as bad. 37% of the country approves of the job that Democrats are doing in Congress, up for 30% at the beginning of the year. Democrats captured control of Congress during the 2006 mid-term elections at a time when their party's approval rating was actually higher than it is today, at 41%. 2008 saw a partial recovery and significant gains in number of seats held in both houses in November. Democrats had a high mark of 57% at roughly the same time as Republicans had a 59% approval rating, largely a result of faux patriotism and support for a war that the public has turned against by a large majority.

Democrats averaged about 41% as the minority party from 2005-2007 but the steep downturn I think can largely be attributed to the public turning against the war, and Democrats' unfulfilled promises to end it.

As for Bush, according to Gallup, he hasn't been above 40% since the fall of 2006. The average job approval rating for his second term of 36.5% is second only to Richard Nixon's low of 34.4%, a difference of about 2.1%, and owns the longest streak of consecutive months below 40% since Harry Truman.

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Paul William Tenny

Some day Republicans are going to learn that the politics of smear and fear, and cultural divisiveness, is not what America wants. 55 Senate seats down to possibly 41. 59% approval down to 25%.

How low can Republicans go?

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:38 PM EST
Smiling Jack

I'm kind of hoping that how they behave in the auto-bailout will do them some more damage.  I didn't even really support the bailout of the big three, but I thought that there was something incredibly corrupt about the way they handled the whole thing.

People who were happy to give out ten to twenty times as much money to various large corporations, suddenly hesitated to loan money to the big three.  They saw a chance to hurt an old political enemy, the UAW, so they shot it down.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:16 PM EST
Joe Radmacher

Good article, it was fair and factual.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:35 PM EST
another chanceDeleted
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Joe-392005

The approval rating of the republicans lowering has been on the most part the smart politics of the democrats of blaming everything on them and people being gulliable enough to believe everything put out and not seeing what actually happens during session. Next year will start a different route when Democrats no longer have Bush to blame and they themselves will have to account for their own decisions. People would be a lot better off watching C-Span when Congress is in session instead of watching party politics played out in front of the cameras outside of chambers.

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:40 PM EST
Paul William Tenny

The approval rating of the republicans lowering has been on the most part the smart politics of the democrats of blaming everything on them..

Why shouldn't they? Republicans were the party in power for all that time -- it's called responsibility.

People would be a lot better off watching C-Span when Congress is in session instead of watching party politics played out in front of the cameras outside of chambers.

Yes, they should watch C-SPAN so they could have seen Republicans double the previous record for filibusters in a single session. 139, from 2007-2008, up from the previous high of 72. If people actually watched C-SPAN we wouldn't have Republicans in Congress at all.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:04 PM EST
Mr. Rogers.

PWT, the Democrats during these same periods gave Bush, and voted with him, on almost everything he asked for. Quit pretending one group in congress is any better than the other. They all work for themselves. Their "party" differences are just a distraction for the rest of us.

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:01 PM EST
Paul William Tenny

The poll numbers speak for themselves. Bush has the second worst approval ratings in history for a President and Republicans in Congress are even worse.

Probably explains why come 2009, neither of those two will be in power in D.C.

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:08 PM EST
MacDaddy

 " they should watch C-SPAN so they could have seen Republicans double the previous record for filibusters in a single session. 139, from 2007-2008, up from the previous high of 72. If people actually watched C-SPAN we wouldn't have Republicans in Congress at all".

Herry Reid and Dick Durbin need to learn how to count.  They are doing the same thing the GOP did when they were in charge.  How can we make the other party look bad.  In the past strong Senate leaders from both parties did not bring a Bill to the floor for a vote until they had the votes.  

We as a country are to blame.  We have let both parties go nuts with power and money.  All I hear these days from Washington is about the greed on Wall Street and in Corporate America well, isn't that calling the kettle black.  I looked up greed and it said see Congress.    

  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:52 AM EST
Nick-812365

Couldn't agree with you more.  Though I can see people like this blogger still blaming Bush and the Republicans years into the new presidency...

    #2.5 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:07 PM EST
    Paul William Tenny

    Herry Reid and Dick Durbin need to learn how to count. They are doing the same thing the GOP did when they were in charge.

    No, they were not. Republicans doubled the previous record for filibusters from 2007-2008, end of story.

    • 1 vote
    #2.6 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:08 PM EST
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    Joe-392005

    Give it a break on the filibuster issue. I can go tit for tat with you on that. If you ever watched the Senate at all you would know that the reasons for so many so called fillibusters was because Reid would bring bills to floor and try to get them passed by unamious consent on clouture without allowing debate or admentments to bill. The fillibuster rule is set up to prevent such shanigains by either party. I am retired and was able to watch especially during oil crisis and it was despectiable to say the least how Pelosi and Reid acted. To give you 1 example, in April the house passed a bill against speculation (which by the way I agreed) on a Thursday. I watched Senate on Friday and all the next week. Reid never brought that bill to the floor to be debated or voted on because the Senate democrats had their own plan and tried to get it voted on without debate or admendment. The Republicans stopped that bill because it did not address off shore drilling which you know was called on and supported by 80% of people at that time. But when Pelosi and her co-herts went before the news media they blamed the Republicans for not passing "the House Bill" when in fact it never was brought to floor to begin with which action is left to the majority leader of which bills are to be brought to floor.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#3 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:24 PM EST
    Blearc

    Filibusters yes have a purpose, but the purpose is not to stop any and all legislation from hitting floor:

    Obstructionism was the goal, sorry Lott it didn't continue working.

      #3.1 - Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:53 PM EST
      captcool2007

      Joe

      I don't know where you get your 80% approval rating for offshore oil drilling from, but  I can rest assure you that there was never an 80% approval for offshore drilling. Also let me assure that no one has perfected the art of deception game better than the repugs have.

        #3.2 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:16 PM EST
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        bluearcher

        ...get them passed by unamious consent on clouture without allowing debate or admentments to bill

        Oh, I forgot that all bills need some form of bull@!$%# ammendment or pork barrel allotment tacked onto them. What was I thinking?

        Republicans were like parents - you have to have discipline...

        Funny. I don't recall my parents being fear mongering, intolerant, bigots. And if by discipline you mean a national debt nearly tripled, rape of the Constitution, condoning torture abroad, etc., etc., etc.

        Your idea of parents scares me.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#5 - Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:06 PM EST
        Dave-727266

        Leave it to Paul to not usually report on something like this buuuut... Paul is a left wing nut and should be on the Daily Kos where he belongs!!!!!!!!!!!!

          #5.1 - Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:58 PM EST
          FedUpinCharlotte

          So the taliban chopping the heads off of people is not torture sand putting it on the net? 

            #5.2 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:19 AM EST
            Paul William Tenny

            Paul is a left wing nut and should be on the Daily Kos where he belongs!!!!!!!!!!!!

            http://pwtenny.dailykos.com/ -- thanks folks, I'll be here all week. *bow*

            • 4 votes
            #5.3 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:21 PM EST
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            FedUpinCharlotte

            Paul, glad to see Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are your role models.  Any reason NAncy is not helping out and figuring what to do with her state that is going broke at this timje? 

            I am glad my company sold its assets in California as they are the worst bunch of fools to deal with?  Also, what will you poles say when its Janyary 6 and you now have what you want?  The world is now save again!

              Reply#6 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:18 AM EST
              Paul William Tenny

              Not sure where you got such a silly idea, as a progressive we're very disappointed with Reid and Pelosi and we'd be happy to see them go. Too weak, too centrist.

              Needs more "Democrat" in their Democrat.

              Also, what will you poles say when its Janyary 6 and you now have what you want?

              Well, I don't know what they will look like on the 6th, but as of a couple of days ago, President-elect Obama's approval rating ticked up from 75% to ~83%. Damn, that has got to hurt..

              • 4 votes
              #6.1 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:25 PM EST
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              captcool2007

                Smiling Jack, you're spot on with your assumption about the Repugs and their constant obsession  in trying to demonize Labor Unions in any type of forum they can. I can still remember quite well when C-Span first first started carrying live sessions House of Representatives in 1980. Newt Gingrich and his cronys had their daily talking points in the demonization of Labor Unions. Usings words like, Union Bosses, instead of Union Officials. The repugs have been using the art of deception  game quite successfully for some time now. What amazes me is that so many of the American people still can't see this deception game going on after all these years.

                Reply#7 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:04 PM EST
                Nick-812365

                Did you just pull these figures out of your ass?

                Democrats are currently LOWER rated than Republicans in Congress, according to some simple math and based on this link from a BIG Democratic news source.

                "Members of Congress, with a collective job approval rating under 20 percent in most polls, are likely to think long and hard before picking an early fight with Obama, whose popularity remains high."

                source (Jan 11 '09):

                Can't see the logic? If Republicans are rated 25%, and Congress as a whole is rated 20% approval, and there are more Democrats in Congress than Republicans, then Democrats have a lower rating (under 15%) using stats from this article and Baltimore's.

                Nice one-sided article where you conveniently left out some relevant facts.  Doesn't surprise me that you are a typical MSNBC monkey....

                • 1 vote
                Reply#8 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:12 PM EST
                Paul William Tenny

                Did you just pull these figures out of your ass?

                Um, no, unless you think I work for Gallup and that Gallup just invents their polling numbers:

                Republicans in Congress Less Popular Than Bush

                PRINCETON, NJ -- Just one in four Americans approve of the job the Republicans in Congress are doing, an approval rating just below that given to President Bush. Americans are somewhat more charitable in their ratings of the Democrats in Congress.

                Democratic approval: 37%
                George Bush approval: 29%
                Republican approval: 25%

                Nice one-sided article where you conveniently left out some relevant facts. Doesn't surprise me that you are a typical MSNBC monkey....

                Nick, you will show me the kind if respect you'd expect for yourself and you will act like an adult, or I will boot you right off this column. If you comment here, I expect you to act your age.

                • 1 vote
                #8.1 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:19 PM EST
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                Nick-812365

                Point taken about the respect... moving on:

                Gallup Results over about your same time period show Democrats in Congress LOWER than Republicans, but you don't mention that.

                Arguably, this would be a more balanced/useful story if it wasn't spun by ommitting relevant data. Right now it's like you're comparing oranges to oranges.

                Here is a Gallup chart showing both Republicans and Democrats approval ratigns at same

                article source (about halfway down page):

                This is approximate, but Republicans have the higher rating in Congress about 90% of the time.

                You do make the comment:

                "Typically, voters of the minority party will give extremely bad ratings regardless of what the Congress actually does, simply as a partisan, adolescent show of displeasure. This tends to happen with Republicans more than Democrats, so make of that what you will."

                I'm curious how you came to this assertion, especially the part about Republicans (I would think both parties to rate each other low - what singles out Republicans? I tend to favor Repubs over Dems fiscally, and Dems over Repubs socially, but it seems like the Dems are the party of "whiners" not the Repubs)

                Anyways, not sure how I came to your page (I think it was from a MSNBC comment), but Cheers regardless.  Hope to see you more balanced in the future and would like to hear your comments on this.

                  Reply#9 - Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:58 PM EST
                  Paul William Tenny

                  Point taken about the respect... moving on:

                  Nick,

                  Thank you.

                  Gallup Results over about your same time period show Democrats in Congress LOWER than Republicans, but you don't mention that.

                  I don't mention it because that's not reality.

                  At the time that poll was taken, Republicans in Congress had a 25% approval rating, and Democrats had 37%. Look at the graphs that I just linked if you don't believe me.

                  Republicans haven't seen 37% since the first quarter of 2006, which was the middle of a downward trend that began in 2002 and hasn't stopped since.

                  I took the Democratic line and laid it on top of the Republican graphic here for direct comparison.

                  Democrats had a better approval rating than Republicans from at least 1999 until the second quarter of 2002, a little bit less than 3 years. Republicans moved ahead from 2002-2003, a little less than 2 full years. Ignoring the tied years, Democrats moved back in front from 2005-2008, a little more than 3 full years.

                  Add it up.

                  Democrats: 6 years
                  Republicans: 2 years

                  I don't know where you're getting your information since Newsvine isn't letting your links get posted (don't worry, it's an anti-spam thing for relatively new users, it'll go away after a while.) But the graphs I've provided seem pretty indisputable.

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.1 - Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:22 AM EST
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                  paul-803622

                  Why should we help out Bank of America ?!!!!

                  The bailout money is not helping the people .

                  Ask me, they took my car last month

                  I did not get bailout.

                    Reply#10 - Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:54 PM EST
                    Mr. Dana L. Stern "Dan"

                    Republicans in congress do not represent the people. Providing for the common good of the people is not what they are about. America is wise to the sham!

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#11 - Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:00 AM EDT
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