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Sarah Palin is the consequence of decades of Republican anti-intellectualism, which has now reduced a former VP candidate to reading notes off hand (updated)

Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:03 PM EST
politics
By Paul William Tenny

The GOP's top choice to challenge President Obama in 2012 wrote talking points on her hand.

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(Update 1)

This is not a surprise to anyone that isn't an adolescent male, hopelessly enthralled with any woman with big tits and good looks, or a right-wing hardliner that sees politics in militaristic absolutism: Sarah Palin really is that stupid.

She wasn't duped in 2008 by a liberal media when she couldn't name a single newspaper she reads, nor was she selectively edited by Katie Couric. Reports that Palin didn't know that Africa was a continent didn't come out of NBC or MSNBC, remember, they came from the political chief at Fox News.

That was a rare glimpse of a Vice Presidential candidate that John McCain's handlers tried desperately to hide from the media. We all knew why, you don't go to those great lengths to hide someone that can think on their feet, and use their (hopefully) extensive knowledge of political science and personal experience as a governor to sell yourself as safe choice for second in the line of succession.

Some had trouble accepting the consequences of the Republican party embracing extremist anti-intellectualism as a platform to win votes for themselves against political opponents that were smarter than they were. The road to institutional idiocy had been designed, constructed, repaired, repaved, and paved yet again for the last two decades by Republicans who thought they could win more elections by turning the stupid half of the country against the smart half.

Even if it was just one big lie, even if it would cost them in the end.

The party of stupid that rejects intellectualism as a character flaw has sunk to depths so low that mere disdain for academic elitism isn't enough – you've actually got to be dumb to qualify these days. George W. Bush wasn't enough. Trying to open locked doors, inappropriately touching foreign dignitaries, trying to read an upside down book to school children while this nation was under attack – that wasn't enough.

So this is where we find ourselves, where Alaska's great embarrassment was forced to read talking points written on her hand by a sharpie while insulting the President of the United States -- who whether your like him or not is clearly more intelligent than Palin could ever hope to be – for using teleprompters during speeches.

It's hardly worth the effort to point out, as liberals usually do and yet are regularly ignored, that every President in the modern era uses teleprompters for speeches. If Sarah Palin can't remember a set of five-word talking points without writing them on her hand like a teenager cheating on a test, how is a President supposed to memorize a speech that may run close to ten thousand words?

Remember, Republicans want to set the bar low, not high. If you want to be more qualified to be President of the United States than Sarah Palin, you'll probably need a radio in your ear just giving you the answers instead of reading off your hand (and then showing your hand to the cameras – smooth.)

Palin isn't just an embarrassment for Alaska or the Republican party any longer, and this isn't really her fault. She was born of a conservative movement that embraces stupidity and we have been seeing the results of that. This person is known nationally and around the world because of her arrogant tour, meeting world leaders as if her and John McCain had already won the 2008 election. She's now an embarrassment to the entire country. The stereo type of the arrogant, dumb American has a face and a name, and that name is Sarah Palin.

Naturally, this comes at precisely the same time that Palin ran to the press after he teabagger convention appearance to say that it would be absurd not to ponder a presidential bid.

Well, so much for that idea.


Update: Glenn Greenwald wrote about this which I found amusing:

In its adulating report on Palin's speech, National Review -- whose Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg both bitterly complained about the waving of Mexican flags on U.S. soil -- also proudly noted: "On her lapel, Palin wore a small pin with two flags -- for Israel and the United States." Along with the fact that she remains deeply unpopular with most Jewish-American voters, Palin's flamboyant display of her so-called love for Israel -- she previously boasted that the Israeli flag was the "only" one she kept in her Gubernatorial office -- is almost certainly grounded in her creepy desire to mold America's foreign policy to fit her evangelical belief that God demands that "Israeli land" be unified under Israeli control in order for Jesus to return and sweep all the good Christians up to heaven in Rapture (while banishing everyone else -- including the Jews she loves so much -- straight to hell forever). That's one major reason why neocons such as Bill Kristol love her. Led by Joe Lieberman, neocons have repeatedly shown their willingness to cynically exploit extremist Christian Rapture dogma for greater American fealty towards Israeli actions, and Palin reliably spouts neoconservative dogma on virtually every issue. Almost every one of her national security pronouncements sounds exactly like Dick Cheney and The Weekly Standard (though her call for expanded Israeli settlements go beyond what even most neocons are willing to advocate openly).

Is there any other nation in the world where a leading politician can appear in public -- without controversy -- wearing the flag of a foreign country?

[..]

In sum, Sarah Palin loyally supports virtually every policy that defined the uniquely disastrous Bush/Cheney first term. The "tea party movement" depicts itself as some sort of novel and independent force in American politics, and the establishment media -- which patronizingly equates far right extremists with "real Americans" and is petrified of accusations of "liberal bias" -- plays along. But exactly the opposite is true. It's just an appendage of the Republican Party: more dogmatic and boisterous than party leaders would like, but nonetheless devoted to the purest of partisan goals of restoring the same GOP to power that ran the country into the ground over the last decade.

Glenn's story is far more interesting than mine. Go read it instead.

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Paul William Tenny

My power came back on at a perfect time. Now I get to enjoy the rest of the weekend bashing Palin :)

  • 50 votes
#1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:26 PM EST
Mike Rupert

Sarah Palin is an emotional, intellectually deficient basket case. Does anyone actually believe Sarah Palin writes anything? She can't even talk on the issues. She's doing what her advises have advised: look pretty, repeat the words written for her that the quickly fading conservative movement wants to hear. The right voted for George W. Bush twice; they'll vote for Palin for president; so it's necessary to speak out against this lady as long as she's out there spewing.

  • 44 votes
#1.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:33 PM EST
fuhgetabotit

Sarah Paliban is out there on the retardation issue.

That ain't right.

Sarah Paliban is the retardation issue.

  • 32 votes
#1.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:21 PM EST
rkymtnwoman

"Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

  • 30 votes
#1.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:41 PM EST
rkymtnwoman

; ) and that was a long, long time ago

  • 10 votes
#1.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:47 PM EST
The_Advocate

You've honed in on a very important point: the would-be intellectuals of this country despise the mainstream, average American and their values. You've also taken a great deal of time saying so much more about yourself than about anyone else.

Still, even would-be intellectuals are trainable - you've exchanged the term 'stupid' for 'retard'. Keep striving, you'll get there!

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:36 PM EST
rkymtnwoman

John Stuart Mill lived in the 1800s

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:44 PM EST
The Spirit

You folks just stick with that attitude. It's what's working for her.

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:55 PM EST
abacass

Run Sarah Run, its the best gift Democrats and America could get.

Hell even if she lost the primaries she would hopefully pull enough nutjob hard right votes to secure a moderates nomination.

  • 12 votes
#1.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:32 AM EST
Jerry Verlinger

The whole Party thing is a bust. If these guys are going align themselves with the likes of Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann (who turned down their invitation), they are going to go nowhere.

It cost $825 for the "privilege" of seeing Palin speak ($500 to attend the "convention" and $325 to see the Palin propaganda op)

That's $1650 for a couple. What kind of "grass roots" movement is that?

As far as I'm concerned Palin branded the T Party as a Radical Right Wing group of FringeNuts. I suspected as much prior to their "convention", but her speech and the reception it received pretty much set it in stone.

They say paid her $100,000 for the speech. Then she made some kind of stumbling comment about giving the 100k back to the "movement" "...the check or whatever...." she said.

I don't think they "paid" her anything. I think it was a deal that they would put 100k out there to create the impression that is what she gets for an appearance, and she would say that she was going to "donate" it to the cause, to look good.

I would not be surprised if she paid them to get that keynote spot, so she could use it as a launching pad for her Presidential run in 012. Which is what she did.

It is obvious to me the whole thing was staged as an attempt to launch her as the GOP candidate for President. What was also obvious was the fact that they are a bunch of amateurs that think their opinions are moderate. The stage setting was amateurish (horrible would be a better word), the "Run Sarah Run" chant was obviously staged, as was the so called "Q & A session" they had, when they simply extended her delivery by discussing a bunch of "canned" questions.

My 5 year grand daughter holds better tea parties with her dolls.

I tried, I really tried in the interest of good journalism, to watch the entire speech. But, with her annoying voice being piped through that high school gymnasium speaker system, coupled with the context of that "$100,000" piece of Republican propaganda she was delivering, I just had to turn it off.

It's only February, but I think her comment that the President is nothing more than a "Charismatic Law Professor with a Teleprompter" will hold up as the snarkiest political comment of the year.

I'd like to post an "also ran" in the political snark contest;

"Sarah Palin is nothing more than a Charismatic Hockey Mom with a microphone".

  • 21 votes
#1.9 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:23 AM EST
Scott-377513

Spirit do you believe the stuff you are saying or are you in denial?

They say any publicity is good publicity. Sara has proven that to be wrong.

  • 14 votes
#1.10 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:32 AM EST
pcbynature

1.3-4

LMAO!! Great quote.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 5:04 AM EST
The Spirit

Lessee now. Six words written on her hand versus an entire script on a TelePrompter. Who's the dummy?

And Scott,

Immutable Truths About Liberals #24. Liberals are incapable of attacking the message, so they always attack the messenger.

Where's this sacred code of honor I keep hearing about?

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:03 AM EST
pcbynatureDeleted
Scott-377513

Ok Palin is the dummy, she has plenty of time to prepare, no one would have faulted her if she used teleprompters. Being prepared for a speech usually is a good thing. Good lord remember Bush?

But as you know Spirit TELEPROMPTERS CAN NOT BE USED DURING A Q&A SESSION, like the lunch President Obama had with the GOP when he took them to school.

I have to take pens away from my 5 year old niece, she likes to draw on herself too.

  • 15 votes
#1.14 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:01 AM EST
ohiogal-479871

the would-be intellectuals of this country despise the mainstream, average American and their values.

Sorry, no matter how much you wish it, mainstream America is not stupid as Palin and her followers. Mainstream America values education and we don't understand people who think being an intellectual is a bad thing.

People who get sick don't run to dumbasses, they go to doctors, people who need defending in court, don't run to dumbasses, they go to lawyers, and people who need to invest don't go to dumbasses, they go to financial advisers.

The fact that mainstream America values intellectuals and will pay good money for their services disproves the "average American is non-intellectual" theory that you, Palin, and people on the far-far-far right are pushing.

  • 18 votes
#1.15 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:11 AM EST
ohiogal-479871

Lessee now. Six words written on her hand versus an entire script on a TelePrompter. Who's the dummy?

You are asking what is worse: a person with no real job who can't take time to remember six words vs a world leader who's schedule keeps him from memorizing an one hr speech?

Too easy: the dummy is the bum who can't remember six words.

  • 17 votes
#1.16 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:20 AM EST
CuriousG

Too easy: the dummy is the bum who can't remember six words.

And, she screwed up one. The word crossed out is budget! She wrote budget cuts before she crossed out budget to write tax. I'm surprised she knows the difference.

  • 11 votes
#1.17 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:34 AM EST
marcowhm

You folks just stick with that attitude. It's what's working for her.

Please see Lee Atwater's "Southern Strategy.

  • 7 votes
#1.18 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:40 AM EST
determined0a1

Do you keep bringing Sarah Palin to the board?

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:49 AM EST
Rita-900543

Palin bashing is what you libs do best! Because you have nothing of importance to talk about. By the way, the title to you seed is way off base. There are more Republicans with 4 year degrees+ than there are Democrats. Fact check does wonders for the mind.

  • 2 votes
#1.20 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:36 AM EST
CCryder

Personally, this article has heightened my respect for Sarah Palin: before I read it, I didn't know that she could read and write.

  • 7 votes
#1.21 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:46 AM EST
CuriousG

Rita-900543,

There are more Republicans with 4 year degrees+ than there are Democrats.

And, apparently those educations are paying off...for the Democrats.

GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:55 AM EST
Something new please

When I think of Palin, I can't help but be reminded of the correlation duringthe 2000 election between Bush voters and those that said, of the two candidates, that they'd prefer to have a beer with Bush. I recognize that more Americans would identify with Palin than with Obama, but should that be the basis of selecting a President? It hardly seems wise. I think it actually comes from a sort-of egomania where many people believe they would be up to the task themselves. Personally, I want leaders that are smarter than me.

  • 10 votes
#1.23 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:15 AM EST
determined0a1

Personally, I want leaders that aren't on TV every day or spending aviation fuel for giving speeches.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:24 AM EST
Brandon-801865

I think that this is the only country in the world where stupidity, anti-intellectualism and anti-modernism is not only valued, but encouraged.

People even want to elect and be "represented" by people that despise knowledge and thinking.....an we are trying to export this value system at gunpoint?

History will laugh at the U.S. post 2000 A.D.

  • 14 votes
#1.25 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:41 AM EST
alaskalady

Naw.... Joe six-pack and Joe the Plumber will be running things....make you feel safe huh? How could we laugh at that?????

  • 7 votes
#1.26 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:00 PM EST
TheJonesGirl

Personally, I want leaders that aren't on TV every day or spending aviation fuel for giving speeches.

So you'd rather a president who is secretive and doesn't speak openly and often to the American people?

As for aviation fuel, were you upset with the spending of same to shuttle Bush to Crawford and back over and over?

  • 9 votes
#1.27 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:20 PM EST
ohiogal-479871

There are more Republicans with 4 year degrees+ than there are Democrats. Fact check does wonders for the mind.

And when it comes to education, liberals represent the most educated group and libertarians the second.

Fact check does do wonders for the mind. You'd be wise to take your own advice.

  • 7 votes
#1.28 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:22 PM EST
rickace

ohiogal-479871

the most educated group and libertarians the second.

More accurately, the group with the most college degrees. Which I've come to learn means next to nothing because college education doesn't correlate to common sense and open-mindedness. Or even civility. It simply means you can afford the tuition, attend classes, pass exams, and earn enough credits for a degree.

Peep this video shot in the bastion of educated liberals, the Upper West Side of Manhattan. If you didn't know any better you'd think the bird-flippers were rednecks. (Ignore the captions, the vid's apparently a propaganda piece. The scenes though are real and depict the level of civility of edumacated liberals of New York).

  • 4 votes
#1.29 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:42 PM EST
rickace

Regarding Palin and her palm notes:

Better she read a few words off her hand than a whole damned speech off a TELEPROMPTER.

People used to mock Bush (and rightfully so) about his inability to speak without a script. Obama's better, but Palin has demonstrated that she's hands-down superior to Obama.

Doesn't that just piss ya off?

  • 4 votes
#1.30 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:44 PM EST
weimmom

Obama "must" have a teleprompter every time he speaks, so what Palin had notes on her hand!!

  • 3 votes
#1.31 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:47 PM EST
TheJonesGirl

Obama "must" have a teleprompter every time he speaks, so what Palin had notes on her hand!!

For the millionth time, no teleprompter in sight when Obama handed the House GOP their collective rears 2 weeks ago.

  • 10 votes
#1.32 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:06 PM EST
danp1220

Obama only needs the teleprompter when he addresses the White House press corps. Or is that press corpse?

  • 3 votes
#1.33 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:15 PM EST
V.L.4

Hey what's the diff? Obama needed 2 teleprompters just to speak to a class of 6th graders?

Obama even used a teleprompter to talk with his own cabinet members too! Yeah, he's 'real' eloquent and extemporaneous.

He probably needs a teleprompter just to sing in the shower.

  • 2 votes
#1.34 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:19 PM EST
Scott-377513

Palin has demonstrated that she's hands-down superior to Obama.

No she is not, she rants nonsense, shall I cue up the video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Su8GWaY0Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4L4K5TS80M

Now this is from fox fair an balanced

  • 6 votes
#1.35 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:31 PM EST
ohiogal-479871

More accurately, the group with the most college degrees

Well congratulations Ricky-Come-Lately! "Degrees" is what topic I quoted and replied to. I really didn't mean to throw you off by using a synonym.

Which I've come to learn means next to nothing because college education doesn't correlate to common sense and open-mindedness

And how do you evalutate this? Are you comparing the person to another person, or are you comparing the person after the college education to what they were before. This makes all the difference. Statistically, a person with a college education will generally "mean more" than one with out. On an individual basis, a person with a college education would generally do better than if they never had it. And if you compare two completely different people with two different backgrounds, you get anecdotal experience that amounts to comparing apples to rocks.

It simply means you can afford the tuition, attend classes, pass exams, and earn enough credits for a degree

And if all those things were as easy as you make it sound, then everyone would have a degree now wouldn't they?

Peep this video shot in the bastion of educated liberals, the Upper West Side of Manhattan

Well heavens! Now that you have a non statistical video based out of one area of the country, how can we ever doubt what you say? Sorry, you are always going to find someone stupid doing something somewhere. Esp. on film.

I'm just more interested in why in a statistical study 51% of conservatives couldn't even get a HS diploma ;)

  • 5 votes
#1.36 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:39 PM EST
VerbalBarb

I think that this is the only country in the world where stupidity, anti-intellectualism and anti-modernism is not only valued, but encouraged.

That does seem to be some folks' idea of them there 'Merican values, you betcha!

  • 6 votes
#1.37 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:26 PM EST
ohiogal-479871

I'm just more interested in why in a statistical study 51% of conservatives couldn't even get a HS diploma ;)

Oops. This really should read "more than a HS diploma." My bad for not catching it. This is what happens when you do more than one thing at once :o

  • 1 vote
#1.38 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:06 PM EST
Brandon-801865

Sarah Palin is the consequence of the hatred of thinking, knowledge, intellect, and humanity....that's all.

And people died in this country so that she could "speak."

Shameful.

  • 7 votes
#1.39 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 4:07 PM EST
Paul William Tenny

rickace, weimmom:

Better she read a few words off her hand than a whole damned speech off a TELEPROMPTER.

Obama "must" have a teleprompter every time he speaks, so what Palin had notes on her hand!!

You Republicans keep saying that, and I'm going to keep pwning you with this. Here is George W. Bush using a teleprompter. Here is Ronald Reagan using a teleprompter. Here is John McCain using two teleprompters. Here is Sarah Palin using a teleprompter.

Please, stop embarrassing yourselves.

  • 9 votes
#1.40 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 6:31 PM EST
Olbermansadink

Well, well, Paul Tenny throws another Lunatic Fringe Jerkoff Session over the mere mention of Sarah Palin. Don't tell me, you folks can't get it up for "W" anymore ?

Seriously, Obama salutes our Navy Corpse-Men, continuously in his feb. 4th speech, the guy can't address anything without his 'prompter', and you clowns are carrying on about Palin's quick references.

Call the Guinness folks, I think you've set a record for carrying on in double-standards.

  • 2 votes
#1.41 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:51 PM EST
alaskalady

Seriously, Obama salutes our Navy Corpse-Men, continuously in his feb. 4th speech,

What does this mean?

  • 2 votes
#1.42 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 8:56 PM EST
Naftel

And people died in this country so that she could "speak."

Shameful.

And people died so that you can speak as well. It is telling that it means so little to you that you would write the above statement.

  • 3 votes
#1.43 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:07 PM EST
rickaceDeleted
rickace

Paul William Tenny

You Republicans keep saying that, and I'm going to keep pwning you with this.

You can't pwn me that easily, pwny tails. Since the liberal mind has only a handful of pigeonholes this will come as a surprise to you, but I'm not married to the Republican Party and most certainly not to GWB. I care as much about Palin as she cares about me, which is goose-egg. Was never a big fan of Ronnie "Ray Guns" (remember that from the Woodstock LP? :-)

Please, stop embarrassing yourselves.

When I begin to embarass myself I'll be sure to let you know.

  • 2 votes
#1.45 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:10 PM EST
rickace

alaskalady

Seriously, Obama salutes our Navy Corpse-Men, continuously in his feb. 4th speech,

What does this mean?

While reading the word "corpsman" (which as anyone in the Armed Forces will tell you is pronounced 'CORE man') from his teleprompter during a recent speech, Obama mispronounced it several times as 'CORPSE man'. It's quickly become a running joke among us right-wingers.

  • 2 votes
#1.46 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:17 PM EST
GoldenGateMami_Susi

Because the 's' is silent.

I have heard many people prounounce it as corpseman vs the standard CORE-man

Those who have NEVER mispronounced a word even though they are educated

Here's your stone.

I dare you.

  • 6 votes
#1.47 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:24 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

Obama "must" have a teleprompter every time he speaks, so what Palin had notes on her hand!!

This is an example of how some people get caught up in "talking points".

The Right Wing has decided that the teleprompter thing is a good talking point, so they brainwashed the faithful to believe that Obama always uses a teleprompter and he "must" have one whenever he speaks. In addition to that, they convince them it actually makes a difference.

The end result of this propaganda training, is mindless and meaningless statements like the one in the above quote.

And, "So what if she had notes on her hand"?!

Are you kidding me?!

They bill the speech as a 100,000 Dollar speech, she's supposed to be potential Presidential Candidate, and she shows up openly using crib notes written on the palm of her hand?

Did Obama use crib notes or a teleprompter when he openly engaged the GOP leadership during their recent debate?

Is she going to be able to use crib notes if (God forbid) she ever became President and has to negotiate with world leaders on foreign policy?

  • 3 votes
#1.48 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:48 PM EST
Paul William Tenny

Comment(s) deleted. I laid down the rules yesterday, this story is about Sarah Palin. I will not allow immature conservatives to take the comments off-topic. And no, this is not up for discussion.

  • 4 votes
#1.49 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 10:11 AM EST
sushicat

The mis-pronouncement of "corpsman" is the same with the pronouncement of state/county names. Those that say it correctly are members of that group, those that mis-pronounce the word are an outsider. And someone we will tease.

Try this in states up north, the different names of towns and you can be readily identified as an outsider.

  • 2 votes
#1.50 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:18 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

When I begin to embarass myself I'll be sure to let you know.

Don't bother yourself rick, we already know.

  • 2 votes
#1.51 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:51 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

"The mis-pronouncement of "corpsman"...."

Didn't we go through this in the last administration with "new-clear"?

  • 1 vote
#1.52 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:55 PM EST
rickace

Paul William Tenny

Comment(s) deleted. I laid down the rules yesterday, this story is about Sarah Palin. I will not allow immature conservatives to take the comments off-topic. And no, this is not up for discussion.

I have no problem with your removal of #1.44 for being off-topic, as it clearly was. As for "immature" conservatives, it seems you are incapable of distinguishing witty playfulness from the absence of maturity, or you simply have a vendetta. Let me assure you sir, I am 55 years old and quite mature.

Your flawed characterization and concomitant implied aspersion of me are duly noted.

  • 1 vote
#1.53 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 3:06 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

Your flawed characterization and concomitant implied aspersion of me are duly noted.

Wow, reading a sentence like that is causing me to re-evaluate my perception of the Conservative intellect.

However, (to stay on topic) I doubt that Sarah ever used the word "concomitant".

  • 1 vote
#1.54 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 6:45 PM EST
rickace

Jerry Verlinger

However, (to stay on topic) I doubt that Sarah ever used the word "concomitant".

She might know it, she might not. In any event, I don't see her as POTUS material. First, we're not ready for a female president IMO. Second, she simply doesn't have what it takes for the most powerful job in the world. Governing a state is one thing. Staring down the leaders of the Axis of Evil and guiding our diplomacy through a world teeming with nukes is a whole 'nother ballgame. She'd be a post turtle for sure, and a threat to national security.

BTW there are quite a few bright conservatives. I don't know why we don't see more on the Vine. A few miles from my home town on Long Island is Chaminade High School, a Catholic-run school for boys which graduates many bright conservatives. I couldn't have gotten in if I wanted to because I was a Protestant as a kid. But I'd met a few Chaminade kids and they were quite sharp. One dude was a saxophonist who could read sheet music and transpose the key in his head while playing.

  • 1 vote
#1.55 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 7:52 PM EST
alaskalady

Rickace-

This country is FULL of very smart folks and natural leaders but I doubt anyone of these would want to go into public service anymore....someone would post some old facebook picture from their teen years on the internet and tell lies about them etc. Do we as a country respect our leaders at all?

I am not a fan of President Bush or even President Clinton ( Lewinsky scandal) but when the late night shows, comedians and news began to make a living off of bashing Presidents.....I knew we were headed down a slippery slope of disrespect for the "office" in this country.

  • 1 vote
#1.56 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:57 AM EST
rickace

alaskalady

This country is FULL of very smart folks and natural leaders but I doubt anyone of these would want to go into public service anymore....someone would post some old facebook picture from their teen years on the internet and tell lies about them etc. Do we as a country respect our leaders at all?

First off, leadership is not in the job description; in theory they are public servants, working on our behalf. So already the public has a misperception of their role. Further our "Ask not what your country can do for you" attitude of the 1960s has taken a U-turn and now it's gimme health care, gimme jobs, gimme a house, gimme gimme gimme. Washington is merely a reflection of ourselves. Until we change, we'll continue to elect more self-serving politicians and continue to dis them. If nothing else Palin and the tea parties are a symbol that the people are wising up, getting fed up, and shifting from mocking to demanding the pols they seated deliver the form of government the founding fathers had envisioned.

I am not a fan of President Bush or even President Clinton ( Lewinsky scandal) but when the late night shows, comedians and news began to make a living off of bashing Presidents.....I knew we were headed down a slippery slope of disrespect for the "office" in this country.

Long before their terms in office people were mocking "Tricky Dick" (and justifyably so after Watergate). That to me was the beginning of the demise of the White House. The seeds for that were sown during the LBJ era with its highly unpopular war.

Bad social trends can endure for decades, but the good news is that they eventually give way to new ones. Once again we as a people will find our own compass and right our own mindset. Then the stage will be set for men and women of character to run for office and get themselves elected to serve the people instead of themselves and fat cats in industry with large bankrolls.

Enjoy it now Max. You're sorry azz will get tossed out soon enough.

  • 1 vote
#1.57 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:40 AM EST
alaskalady

Whatever may come in three years....we may disagree. I do so agree with the rest of your post.......however, I hope that President Obama is successful with the economy, the social changes I think we need ( Repeal of DADT) , the 2 wars, Healthcare, and terrorists threats that are coming our way. Whoever will be leading this country in 3 years will benefit from some successes just as will the American people.

  • 2 votes
#1.58 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:35 AM EST
rickace

alaskalady

however, I hope that President Obama is successful with the economy

The tail can't wag the dog. Attempts such as the stimulus to control the economy are doomed to fail and backfire.

Repeal of DADT is IMO the right thing to do for many reasons, among them those voiced by Admiral Mullen. My parents taught me to be honest, and for the military to demand dishonesty from any serviceman or servicewoman is unconscionable. It is a privilege to serve in the military, and no qualified man or women should be denied that privilege upon the basis of sexual preference of all things. Bigotry sucks, so let's salute the Tuskegee Airmen by ridding the military of this pox.

the 2 wars

Yup. Let's get the hell out of there ASAP, lest Afghanistan become Viet Nam V2.0.

Healthcare

The feds should make no new programs and focus upon sustaining the ones we already have. Medicare is in deep @!$%# I hear.

  • 1 vote
#1.59 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:07 AM EST
Jerry Verlinger

".....we're not ready for a female president"

?!

Do you mean we're not mature enough as a nation?

What do we have to do to get "ready"?

I'm sure Hillary Clinton could do the job.She is doing just fine as Secretary of State.

"....she (Sarah Palin) simply doesn't have what it takes for the most powerful job in the world...."

Ya got one correct Rick good for you!

BTW there are quite a few bright conservatives. I don't know why we don't see more on the Vine

We have plenty of Conservatives on the Vine.They just don't stay around when they realize the have to have logic and facts to back up their positions.

One dude was a saxophonist who could read sheet music and transpose the key in his head while playing.

Most accomplished musicians can transpose sheet music to another key as they play.

Are you saying Sarah Palin plays the saxophone?

  • 2 votes
#1.60 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:41 PM EST
determined0a1

I'm sure Hillary Clinton could do the job

Yes but instead our gracious President was chosen.

About a good as Secretary of State. So far Iran is............

  • 1 vote
#1.61 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:50 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

This country is FULL of very smart folks and natural leaders but I doubt anyone of these would want to go into public service anymore..

Do we as a country respect our leaders at all?

You are onto a very interesting theme here alaskalady, I have been saying the same thing for years.

First off, leadership is not in the job description

Wrong!

Leadership is absolutely the most important thing any Head of State must possess.

For you to say it is not even in the job description is just ridicules, when it is in fact the most important part of the job.

Palin and the tea parties are a symbol that the people are wising up

I'll be interested to see how much support you get for that one!

The tail can't wag the dog. Attempts such as the stimulus to control the economy are doomed to fail and backfire.

Most economist in the country think the stimulus package was necessary and will succeed.

One what basis or evidence do you make the statement that the stimulus is doomed to failure?

  • 2 votes
#1.62 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:08 PM EST
VerbalBarb

About a good as Secretary of State. So far Iran is............

So, I'm just curious. What do you suggest be done re Iran?

  • 2 votes
#1.63 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:09 PM EST
Jerry Verlinger

About a good as Secretary of State. So far Iran is............

So far Iran is what?

A problem?

Iran has been a problem since the overthrow of the Shaw.

What do you think Sec. of State Clinton should do about Iran?

  • 1 vote
#1.64 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:17 PM EST
alaskalady

Jerry, I hope folks realise I was quoted only in the first part of your #1.62.......

    #1.65 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:29 PM EST
    rickace

    Jerry Verlinger

    For you to say it is not even in the job description is just ridicules, when it is in fact the most important part of the job.

    The job description is Section II of the Constitution. Find the word "leadership" in there and I'll eat my car. Leadership is in the job descriptions of non-coms and officers in the military, but the CIC is a civilian. Command authority and leadership are two separate and independent roles.

    I'll be interested to see how much support you get for that one!

    I have nothing invested so I could care less if I get support.

    Most economist in the country think the stimulus package was necessary and will succeed.

    Well I'll give you credit. You're smarter than the president who thought ALL economists agreed with him. I beg to differ though with your unsubstantiated claim. And unless you can prove that the Cato Institute which sponsored that ad brainwashed all the signers (several Nobelists among them) into lending their names, don't even mention Cato.

    One what basis or evidence do you make the statement that the stimulus is doomed to failure?

    You already had the answer in the quote of mine appearing in #1.62.

    The tail (Washington) can't wag the dog (the economy).

    • 1 vote
    #1.66 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:31 PM EST
    fuhgetabotit

    There are no conservatives on the vine, there is nothing but right trash ignorance, the ideologically insane, the politically and historically tragically stupid typing around the clock promoting the lies they suck from the ass end of a fox or pick up from am radio. They claim to be conservative but any real conservative wouldn't bother pissing on the crap written in here by the so called conservatives, Christians or real Americans.

    They are not, imho only of course, conservative or Christian, they are however, without a doubt, and I am ashamed to have to say it, American. But they aren't 'real' Americans or patriots.

    What you have in here is the bottom two percent of the tea pot, the dregs, pretending to be normal adults and lying their ignorant asses off day in day out repeating anything that makes them feel all mighty and whitey extra special all American ya betcha 'c'hristian.

    They make me sick.

    • 3 votes
    #1.67 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:07 AM EST
    bon3flake

    prove the lies you say are told, point them out with some facts from a source we can check. or admit your just ranting with no real facts. 2% where do you get that number? not real Americans? what makes one real as a American or patriot? you toss the words out so smoothly yet in the end its all crap. anyway judging from your post i see you will be sick for some time. How is that hope and change working for you fuh? why not live by your own lib argument you stood by when the right called you anti military/war people the same as you just called conservative... oh yeah what makes one a real conservative? seeing as how you know so much about what is real and fake.

    • 2 votes
    #1.68 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:18 AM EST
    Jerry Verlinger

    there is nothing but right trash ignorance, the ideologically insane, the politically and historically tragically stupid typing around the clock promoting the lies they suck from the ass end of a fox or pick up from am radio.

    What you have in here is the bottom two percent of the tea pot, the dregs, pretending to be normal adults and lying their ignorant asses off day in day out repeating anything that makes them feel all mighty and whitey extra special all American ya betcha 'c'hristian.

    They make me sick.

    That, and all the rest of your outrageous and insulting comment should be shoved right up your ignorant ass.

    I fight, argue, and debate with Conservatives and radical Right Fringenuts every day on Newsvine. I don't agree with them or believe what they believe, but I respect their right to their opinion and their beliefs.

    If you made a comment like that on one of my threads, I would delete it in a heartbeat.

    If you get so sick around here, I suggest you find another place to vent your hatred.

    (Sorry Paul, but that kind of crap really pisses me off)

    • 1 vote
    #1.69 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:41 PM EST
    Naftel

    If you get so sick around here, I suggest you find another place to vent your hatred.

    (Sorry Paul, but that kind of crap really pisses me off)

    Self-righteous hatred should piss you off. It should piss everyone off. Good comment. People who can not communicate without a litany of insults are not worth conversing with.

    • 2 votes
    #1.70 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:57 PM EST
    fuhgetabotit

    Truth stings don't it?

    The political right in America and its leadership. The 'c'hristian right, and its superstitious imbeciles. Fuhging morons, dangerous ignorant and based on lies, after lie, after lie, after lie from top to bottom its a foul stink of lies and stupidity.

    But hey, thats just my opinion, you go on supporting whatever y'all like.

    Imbeciles

    bigots

    racists

    idiots, more idiots and even more idiots..

    and, those to damn stupid then to stand next to them and say ahhh, they ok, just folk.

    Fuhging rancid politcal sewage is what I call it. But you go on and build your conservative and republican and tea on all that. Good luck.

    For the record, Liberal my ass, I just don't like ignorance and lies. GOP, conservative and the 'c'hristian right stops using nothing but lies and ignorance to grab for power and destroy my country and I'll stop using those words to describe the pile of utter disgusting vile @!$%# it all is.

    • 1 vote
    #1.71 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:01 AM EST
    rickace

    fuhgetabotit

    They make me sick.

    Poor you. Tell your mom.

    • 1 vote
    #1.72 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:08 PM EST
    Jerry Verlinger

    I'll tell you what fuhgetabotit, you don't like it around here? Don' be around here.

    We do not need and we do not want the sick, vile and disgusting post you have been putting up on the Vine.

    I suspect the only reason you post your garbage on the here, is because you can't find anyone else that will tolerate it.

    So, immediately upon completing this comment, I am going to bring your sick sh!t to the attention of the Newsvine Administration and formally request they terminate your membership.

      #1.73 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:49 AM EST
      fuhgetabotit

      lol, And that makes you what? The hall monitor? I suggest you argue with the video, not me. I'm providing the links to back up what I say. Besides that it seems you personally don't like others pointing out the facts with clear evidence like I do is there anything you have that disputes or contradicts the post or my links?

      The Political right, the 'c'hristian right, (the 'c'hristian right that 'real republicans' knew to be a foul stink hole of political sewage, by the way) the GNOP and what remains of the Republican Party from Boehner trolling for violence to god damn morons like Bachmann doing all they can to gin up mobs of pathetic imbeciles into a fury and the rest of the pandering irresponsible cowards needs, and should be, utterly and completely politcally destroyed.

      Its a cancer in the body politic of this country and its people. Reasoning people know this and are walking away in droves from the twisted and poisonous ideological insanity that is the political right trash in America. In fact, I think its pretty clear only the ideologically insane are left to call themselves "conservative" or even republican. At the least, its only the insane or those willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with the lies and ignorance calling itself by those names. Those so low, so blind, so ignorant, so superstitious and so useless they can't smell the very manure they stand in.

      You don't like my saying that, calling out the truth of what it is, go talk the the bastard whores leading the mobs and suggest they stop trying to destroy this country for their own profits and or political ideological greed and stupidity.

      But failing that, the "I hate fuhg for telling the truth and backing up his opinion with all those dang links and the video evidence which I have nothing to contradict with" line forms over there, you know, on the right.. the ideological/politically insane, 'base', 'c'hristian nation cult of stupid worlds largest cult right trash 'right".

      Have a lovely day ;

      • 1 vote
      #1.74 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:22 AM EST
      Jerry Verlinger

      You don't get it fugh,

      I dislike the Radical Right the also, and for sure, they have pissed me of to the point where I would like to punch a wall. However, the people that piss me off even more are some of the morons that buy into their propaganda and get downright stupid with their comments here on the Vine.

      However, fugh, keep in mind Newtons Third Law, "For every action there is a reaction of equal force and energy". And you are a reaction to the Right Fringenuts, in that you are making yourself look like a Left Fringenut.

      By condemning the Radical Right in the venomous manner in which you do, you only make yourself look just like them, only with a different perspective.

      I too, once considered myself a Conservative (was a campaign manager for a Conservative/Republican New York State Senator in the 70's) and I have been enrolled Republican for over 52 years, however the Conservatives have moved so very far to the Right, that I now find myself in the Left Wing camp and have even been called a "Liberal".

      But those Radical Right Fringenuts think any and everybody that does not agree with them is a Liberal.

      So, I share your disdain for the likes of Sarah Palin and the "Christian Right", but maybe you should tone it down a notch or two, your letting your anger distort your argument.

      • 1 vote
      #1.75 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:43 AM EST
      fuhgetabotit

      And in all that I hear you and you are welcome to your opinion of both reality, what we perceive the threat level is and in how you go about dealing with it. But I do disagree with you and this is why.

      I am/was a Reagan Republican and I, speaking only for myself, have seen more then enough. I am not arguing with a body of people who I have anything but utter contempt for. I am arguing and speaking directly to the 20% of the population still claiming to be some kind half assed republican and therefore claims the word conservative and who is made up of a majority of birthers (58% of the GNOP is birthers for christs sake!!??!!)) and frankly a group that is by and large in my opinion only, the whacktard incredibly stupid half brained religious right whatever the hell it is they call themselves, and my friend...

      They got as close as a fuhging Sarah Palin to the presidency of the United States Of America and they are 'c'street and they just got corporations made into human beings and they are everything and every bit as insanely hostile and horribly bigoted and dangerous as my links show...

      So excuse me but...

      All I am doing is calling a spade a spade, if that seems to cause heat then so be it.

      Its just the simple obvious truth to me and all I am doing by pointing it out en masse, with the links and direct words, is make is a bit clearer and intense by describing it so. None of that changes the fact that what I am saying is/are reasonable and true.

      Its not letting your anger distort any darn thing if you are dearly pointing out that the other guy is sawing hard at the limb you both sit upon. It only means you are sane, no matter the other guys protestation to things being other then as you perceive them. The insane don't argue rationally, another shortcoming of the political right by the way.

      So pardon me, I wish you well, but I shall go right on anyway, pointing out the danger I see in the actions of the few against all of us as a nation in a time of multiple wars on multiple fronts and just blood chilling terrifying crisis'safter crisis.

      These people are some sort of religious/political hysteria I have not seen in my years and frankly, I am past being PC about it, I want them to stop sawing period and until they do I'm likely to remain this cranky. And I am sorry, but if I consider them an enemy then it's the cost of the way they do business, not mine. I started with no prejudice, its their words, their behavior that drives all this and thats a plain fact I know as I have seen it all with my own eyes. No bull@!$%#, no ideology no left no right.

      I've seen enough, I want no more, I demand they stop and if not then I will fight them to the political death for starters.

      The Political right in this country is a sickness of the mind and its dangerous because stupidity is dangerous and in mobs, its real dangerous.

      Here's the report.

      Read the whole thing then tell me I am overstating it.

      • 2 votes
      #1.76 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:25 PM EST
      fuhgetabotit

      and by the way, for short, please just call me fuhg'r

      • 1 vote
      #1.77 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:29 PM EST
      Reply
      Paul William Tenny

      Wait...does she have her name written on her sleeve..? Does she forget that as well?

      • 29 votes
      #2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:27 PM EST
      VerbalBarb

      Wait...does she have her name written on her sleeve..? Does she forget that as well?

      I think that's a bracelet she wears for her son, who's in the military.

      But, what a boob to cheat like a high school student or maybe a beauty queen (note to self on hand: World Peace). Perhaps this is something one learns on the pageant trail (along with putting hemorrhoid cream under the eyes to get rid of puffiness).

      Obviously unsure of herself, she cheats by writing notes on her hand!! Just another indication of her somewhat bent thought process, and her clearly questionable ethics.

      • 30 votes
      #2.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:33 PM EST
      MarkD-555

      I want to attack Palin, I don't like picking on intelectually challenged people... but I have to ask:

      What is wrong with bringing out just a sheet of paper and setting it on the podium? Would that be frowned upon? Why didn't she do that?

      • 32 votes
      #2.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:02 PM EST
      dcstone01

      Not only does she have to 'write' down her own talking points on her hand while hypocritically decrying Obama's use of the teleprompter...but in a recent interview...she says....

      Palin: Obama Could Win Reelection if He 'Played the War Card' and Declared 'War on Iran.'

      • 24 votes
      #2.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:16 PM EST
      Paul William Tenny

      I think that's a bracelet she wears for her son, who's in the military.

      Ah, my bad.

      • 12 votes
      #2.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:28 PM EST
      LadySaidy

      Actually Mark, Ms. Palin did have her speech written on paper up at the podium with her. I have no issue with that.

      People who give speeches as a living use teleprompters, note cards, sheets of paper, or whatever works for them to help them keep their place, and stay on track.

      People who give speeches for a living (and I count politicians in that group) do not write notes on their hands.

      • 34 votes
      #2.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:32 PM EST
      VerbalBarb

      What is wrong with bringing out just a sheet of paper and setting it on the podium? Would that be frowned upon? Why didn't she do that?

      It that mindset that's a bit shy of ethical standards. Rather than look like she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about, she'd rather cheat.

      • 18 votes
      #2.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:40 PM EST
      madvargr

      Because she has painted herself into a corner with all of the Teleprompter talking points. Nobody in the GOP will ever be able to use a visible means of prompting when delivering speeches ever again because of all the nonsense.

      Of course, I expect all of the rank and file GOP to also start wearing their birth certificates pinned to their shirts...

      • 19 votes
      #2.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:22 PM EST
      ohiogal-479871

      What is wrong with bringing out just a sheet of paper and setting it on the podium? Would that be frowned upon? Why didn't she do that?

      I believe she did have note cards at the podium, I think the cheating was meant for the Q and A session.

      • 8 votes
      #2.8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:47 PM EST
      The_Advocate

      Cheating? Was she taking a test?

      An aside, soldiers annotate main points of operations orders on their palms as a matter of practice. It is a sure way not to lose notes. Their working conditions are obviously not ameanable to teleprompters - just as this tea party likely wasn't. It was not a party convention, afterall.

      • 3 votes
      #2.9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:42 PM EST
      Jerry Verlinger

      Cheating? Was she taking a test?

      Yes. It was a test to see if she would be a viable Presidential Candidate.

      • 6 votes
      #2.10 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:06 AM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Oh!

      I see so it was a ploy to connect with soldiers. Because soldiers do this in the field, etc.

      Hmm. Obviously she has no business in uniform and sure as hell has no business interjecting herself and her unsolicited policy platforms as some 'leader in waiting'

      Can you imagine? In the field leading soldiers in a real combat situation and she stops.....wait! wait! I gotta read my palm! Oh! Shoot, I wiped it off! I gotta go back and get my notes!

      Seriously? Bad analogy there Advocate.

      • 5 votes
      #2.11 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:17 AM EST
      ohiogal-479871

      Cheating? Was she taking a test?

      Yep the test was if she could remember to bring up "energy", her 2008 platform issue, without help.

      Guessssssssssssss not.

      • 5 votes
      #2.12 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:25 AM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      isn't palm writing how she got through college........

      6 times?

      • 5 votes
      #2.13 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:47 AM EST
      determined0a1

      How mean people could be to a member of the opposition.. Mrs. Palin is the grain of sand that irritates the oyster and came a pearl (words of Perot about himself)

      • 4 votes
      #2.14 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:53 AM EST
      Sog-510945

      Not a grain of sand at all. She is like the laxative the irritates the... eh never mind.

      • 6 votes
      #2.15 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:12 AM EST
      V.L.4

      I wonder what Obama has written on his hand? Maybe something like: "Note to self:..I am an American, I am an American, I am an American" They probably have to sew that into his 'day of the week' underwear as well!

      • 1 vote
      #2.16 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:45 PM EST
      VerbalBarb

      I wonder what Obama has written on his hand? Maybe something like: "Note to self:..I am an American, I am an American, I am an American" They probably have to sew that into his 'day of the week' underwear as well!

      Is it considered against the COH to use eye rolls?

      • 7 votes
      #2.17 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:30 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Nope but it's probably against the COH to use the hand gesture I am.

      :)

      LOL!

      • 7 votes
      #2.18 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:36 PM EST
      common sense-353470

      Nope but it's probably against the COH to use the hand gesture I am.

      Only allowed as valid if its written with a sharpie on your hand dontcha know what are you UnAmerican?

      The new American standards equal to only cheap flourescent mustard not that Brownish whole seed stuff.

      • 5 votes
      #2.19 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:55 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Did you say something Common?

      I'm sorry I was busy using my Sharpie and eating my Spanish chorizo with spicy brown mustard.

      ;)

      Damn! I guess I failed the 'test!'

      • 5 votes
      #2.20 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:13 PM EST
      VerbalBarb

      I'm sorry I was busy using my Sharpie and eating my Spanish chorizo with spicy brown mustard.

      Aha. Now we know fer sher yer a leftie - eatin' that there forrin food, you betcha!!

      • 7 votes
      #2.21 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:48 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Hangs her head in shame. LOL

      Yeah because T-baggers don't eat and/or drink their fair share of Chinese, Mexican, Spanish, Cuban, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Italian, Greek, German, Middle Eastern food and products.

      I say I'm enjoying a Spanish chorizo and I'm Un-American, elitist and probably illegal and should go back where I came from.

      They eat it and it's okay because they bought it at Taco Bell, McDonald's or Sbarro's good American companies!

      • 8 votes
      #2.22 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 4:31 PM EST
      Reply
      Fred-45144444

      You can always determine who the Libs are afraid of. Just look who they attack.

      • 5 votes
      #3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:46 PM EST
      Paul William Tenny

      Really? That's your response, when this idiot got caught with talking points scribbled on her hand, that we're magically afraid of her?

      ..wait..

      AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

      • 46 votes
      #3.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:52 PM EST
      Steve Watts

      I don't know a single liberal afraid of Sarah Palin. Even my Republican friends acknowledge that she doesn't have a shot at the primaries. Her stronghold is vocal, but small, and getting smaller by the day. Instead, we try to point out how ludicrous it is that the hardcore right-wing fringe is dragging the party into their mess with people like her.

      I'm all for the lefties and righties working together to improve the country, but as long as either or both parties are being led by the extremists of their group, nothing will ever get done. Look at critiquing Sarah Palin is a public service. If the Republicans can wake up and realize she's a sinking ship, maybe they'll put someone up that's worthwhile.

      • 34 votes
      #3.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:56 PM EST
      Fred-45144444

      My power came back on at a perfect time. Now I get to enjoy the rest of the weekend bashing Palin :)

      Look, you said your so glad your power came back on so you could enjoy the rest of the weekend bashing Palin. On Super Bowl weekend ? That's all you want to do? She's on your mind a bit too much Cowboy if that's how your living your life. She's got to you. I'd even say she's won the mind game.

      • 7 votes
      #3.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:01 PM EST
      TheJonesGirl

      ook, you said your so glad your power came back on so you could enjoy the rest of the weekend bashing Palin. On Super Bowl weekend ? That's all you want to do?

      And yet, here you are, adding comments to the article and spending a part of your weekend bashing Paul.

      • 26 votes
      #3.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:23 PM EST
      Fred-45144444

      Just smoking a pork shoulder waiting for kick-off. Using a lot of carbon induced charcoal as my salute to Al Gore. Always doing my part to contribute to Global Warming you know.

      • 5 votes
      #3.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:33 PM EST
      bonos_rama

      You are spending superbowl weekend defending an idiot who can't even remember four words and needs to write them on her hand? Wow.

      • 26 votes
      #3.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:49 PM EST
      Paul William Tenny

      Look, you said your so glad your power came back on so you could enjoy the rest of the weekend bashing Palin. On Super Bowl weekend ? That's all you want to do?

      That's all I ever want to do.

      • 20 votes
      #3.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:30 PM EST
      Fred-45144444

      Small things amuse small minds.

      • 2 votes
      #3.8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:21 PM EST
      Bubba-939441

      "idiot who can't even remember four words"

      Next thing ya know she'll be using a teleprompter.

      • 3 votes
      #3.9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:59 PM EST
      VerbalBarb

      Next thing ya know she'll be using a teleprompter.

      Nah. That's to open and above-board for her; she'd rather cheat.

      • 14 votes
      #3.10 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:02 PM EST
      Steve Watts

      Next thing ya know she'll be using a teleprompter.

      I love how Palin pulls a stunt seen in high school final exams, and the best retort the Right can manage is, "oh yeah, well Obama uses a technology that every President for the last 50 years has used!"

      • 19 votes
      #3.11 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:11 PM EST
      Bubba-939441

      Sarah Palin could be tongue tied and there are still those who would vote for her over Obama. Unless something changes Dems are in big trouble. They could lose both houses of congress and the great Pelosi would have to give up her speaker role.

      • 3 votes
      #3.12 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:51 PM EST
      lifeisgood43

      Bubba..... I bet you a million dollars right now that Palin would never be Pres. Hell, Palin is not going to win the nomination for the Rep ticket. They are going to tear her down worse than any Dem.

      • 9 votes
      #3.13 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:30 PM EST
      ohiogal-479871

      Sarah Palin could be tongue tied and there are still those who would vote for her over Obama

      Good Lord, that would be the blind leading the blind.

      • 7 votes
      #3.14 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:49 PM EST
      VerbalBarb

      Sarah Palin could be tongue tied and there are still those who would vote for her over Obama.

      That is a sad, sad statement. Are people really willing to just be drones?

      • 10 votes
      #3.15 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:56 PM EST
      rkymtnwoman

      Fred-45144444

      Small things amuse small minds.

      mmmm that reminds me of the GOP spending $60 million and 2 years studying every minute detail of a consensual sex act by a certain sitting President while terrorists were taking flying lessons

      • 9 votes
      #3.16 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:12 AM EST
      Bubba-939441

      "I bet you a million dollars right now that Palin would never be Pres"

      She won't be on the Republican ticket.

        #3.17 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:14 AM EST
        lifeisgood43

        Bubba... what ticket will she be on because 1000 people will not get Palin elected. You know the 1000 who heard her speech that she wrote on her hand

        • 4 votes
        #3.18 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:13 AM EST
        Jerry Verlinger

        You can always determine who the Libs are afraid of. Just look who they attack.

        Political pundits criticize.

        Pit Bulls attack.

        You know, like the "Hockey Moms with Lipstick"?

        BTW, those of us that criticize Conservatives are not necessarily "Libs".

        There is a very large contingency of Moderates in this country who make up the majority of the voters.

        Liberals are just opposites of Conservatives both of whom are on the outer fringe of the political spectrum and neither of which have ever carried a majority.

        • 5 votes
        #3.19 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:27 AM EST
        determined0a1

        Why Time or Newsweek if they were not afraid of the Teabaggers did not put in the front page of the magazine the pictures of the hundred of thousands people that went to the Capitol to protest?

        • 1 vote
        #3.20 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:59 AM EST
        xcomunic8ed

        the hundred of thousands people

        huh???

        • 4 votes
        #3.21 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:30 AM EST
        Paragon Fury

        Because that was a vastly overblown and rather irrelevant event?

        They had no real stand, facts or position and spent most of their time just rying to bash whatever was going on at the time. That, and the numbers were obviously made up - the half the pictures taken to make it look like there were tons of people there were clearly, and very badly, Photoshopped, as several members here proved when those stories ran here a while back.

        • 6 votes
        #3.22 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:34 AM EST
        Scott-377513

        determined0a1 Where and when? Hundreds of thousands?

        You mean this?

        http://vodpod.com/watch/2336393-daily-show-fox-news-prefers-teabaggers-over-gay-rights-marchers-online-mediaite

        • 4 votes
        #3.23 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:57 AM EST
        V.L.4

        Fred:

        The progressives are afraid of everything! They are frightened by other people that simply disagree,...nature,..the environment, icebergs, cars, et al. I can't imagine what it must be like to feel threatened by EVERYTHING!!

        Is it any wonder that their 'message' is always steeped in insults and personal attacks. People tend to fear that which they do not understand,.. and the liberals just do not understand what America is really about,..much less the average American, it must all be so terrifying for them.

        • 1 vote
        #3.24 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:58 PM EST
        Paragon Fury

        Fear? Fear is the best answer, the best comeback you could come up with? Because we don't want to subvert, loot, shoot and evangelize everything we come across, we're afraid of it?

        The message isn't steeped in insults and personal attacks - calling stupid people stupid, or ignorant people ignorant, or people who lie liars is not insulting them; its telling the truth.

        • 5 votes
        #3.25 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:58 PM EST
        determined0a1

        Scott,

        This is the teabaggers in front of de capitol.

        http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/up-to-two-million-march-on-us-capitol-to-protest-obama/

        Not shown in Time or Newsweek

          #3.26 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:49 PM EST
          Paragon Fury

          Ok, you're going to try the same photoshopped pictures as before when the story originaly ran?

          If you're going to try, at least try a bit hjarder than that.

          In addition, that is nowhere near "2 million" or even a million people. Hell, that entire picture would probably just barely fill the TUC or Yankee Stadium.

          • 2 votes
          #3.27 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 1:38 AM EST
          Paul William Tenny

          This is the teabaggers in front of de capitol.

          There is no excuse for ignorance: Surprise: far right lies about size of D.C. teaparty protests, inflates size by over *66 times*

          • 5 votes
          #3.28 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 10:14 AM EST
          rickace

          Paul William Tenny

          There is no excuse for ignorance: Surprise: far right lies about size of D.C. teaparty protests, inflates size by over *66 times*

          Hey the righties are just taking a page out of Obama's playbook. Have you seen the reports of inflated numbers on Recovery.gov?

          What's good for the goose ...

          Oh, and BTW FOX sent a reporter down to Nashville, who concluded that about 10% of the attendees were loonies. Presumably those are the ones you focus on.

          • 1 vote
          #3.29 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 1:08 PM EST
          G. H.

          Yup! Loonies........................Sarah and her homies. :-)

          • 1 vote
          #3.30 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 10:43 PM EST
          rickace

          G. H.

          Yup! Loonies........................Sarah and her homies. :-)

          It's the other 90% who find her inspiring them to mount a peaceful assault upon the godzilla government in Washington that has you progressives scared @!$%#less. Why else would yall serve up so much venom at a bunch of nobodies parading around with signs?

          BTW did you see that empty suit Press Secretary Gibbs goofing on Palin's palm-notes on the very same day his boss was reaching across the aisle to Republicans? While Obama was trying to mend fences and get some bipartisan action going, Gibbs was sabotaging him behind his back.

          • 2 votes
          #3.31 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 11:12 PM EST
          determined0a1

          Our gracious President has been sabotaged by Nancy, Reid, a bunch of his own party and now the bland custard of Gibbs.

          If takes 45 minutes of Chris Matthews to talk about the handwriting, I would like that many take a look at the tape and the very mischifious face of Sarah trying to read her hand.

          Her face won the best Oscar 2010.

          • 1 vote
          #3.32 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:19 PM EST
          bon3flake

          paul you use a link to a opinion piece and use it as fact? did you see the people there? I did It wasnt a small number by any means, to top it all off they actually went without being hired to protest like acorn/union people do. I dont see how notes on her hand have much to do with things. I guess if you have to focus on demonising her its somthing to grasp at, in the end she is doing just fine these days. has a good job and many people are driving like mad to see her, just her not like obama having a concert then running up giving a talk then saying all were there for him. keep fooling yourself. in the end palin isnt your problem these days, your own party not working as one seems to stop your plans just fine until now. but by all means focus on her. mit is leading the race for gop nomination right now. besides even blanch (d- sen from ark) says obama dosnt have people who understand the economy. your party is imploding, while you make fun and laugh. thats funny isnt it?

            #3.33 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:30 PM EST
            Paul William Tenny

            paul you use a link to a opinion piece and use it as fact? did you see the people there? I did It wasnt a small number by any means

            75,000-100,000 isn't small, no, but it's also not the 2,000,000 that the right-wing blogs and pundits lied and said it was. Not by far.

            to top it all off they actually went without being hired to protest like acorn/union people do.

            You got any proof, or are you just going to slink away after lying like that?

            I guess if you have to focus on demonising her its somthing to grasp at, in the end she is doing just fine these days.

            71% of the country thinks she's unqualified to be president and more than half hold an unfavorable view of her. In what reality is that "doing just fine"?

            your party is imploding

            Uh, what? My party won landslide elections in 2006 and 2008 and won the White House. Your party lost in landslide elections in 2006 and 2008 and lost the White House. Again, in what freaking reality is that imploding for anyone other than the Republican party?

            Someone needs to come back to reality here, and friend, it ain't me.

            • 3 votes
            #3.34 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:55 PM EST
            bon3flake

            do i really need to prove it? i mean acorn and union people have been used in protests . they are paid at times to do it. if you insist it donst happin ill try and get you more proff.

            landslide guess you can call it that. but you have to see that changing. with what has takin place in NJ,VA, MASS. Few dems running this year really feel safe. I dont have a party, last time i voted in 3 dems and 4 repubs.But if you wanna see landslides just wait a few months.

            I was in reality enough to help vote great leadership in my state. Arkansas is doing great compared to most everywhere else. And when its all over we ( as a state will not owe anything) our fed guys cant say that can they?

            how about this for reality last time you guys had it this good you almost lost the party, (after cater many thought the party was lost till bill actually won) here today we have alot of the same things , i cant help but think its going to hurt the dems like it did back then. as for 71% of the country , i say this when did i say she was running? where did i say she is the one? I think she will work for the next prez. she is out there making a great bit of cash, taking the heat off your side. in the end she will not make it past the primary. I think huckabee is the next one, i could be wrong. so much can change between now and then. in the end you cant tell me the dems are comfortable right now. you cant tell me acorn/union people are never paid to protest. and you cant use an opinion piece as fact. sorry if you dont like it, its just how i see it.

              #3.35 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:24 AM EST
              Paul William Tenny

              do i really need to prove it?

              If you want anyone to believe what your claim, yeah, you need to prove it. Otherwise it's just BS. I'm betting that you can't prove it, because it definitely sounds like BS.

              • 1 vote
              #3.36 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:36 AM EST
              determined0a1

              bon,

              Please, no Huckabee, let him playing his guitar on TV.

              • 1 vote
              #3.37 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:40 AM EST
              bon3flake

              here is one of many storys on acorn and its rent a mob.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZc-i_rEGWA

              http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2282289/posts

              http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/exposed-acorn-behind-protests-at-aig-homes-under-seiu-rent-a-mob-contract/

              if you dont like them check out any of the tons i got when goggleing acorn rent a mob.

                #3.38 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:31 PM EST
                Reply
                Steve Watts

                I've seen a few Righties around the Vine defending her on this point today, and the defense boils down to, "well Obama uses a teleprompter!"

                Alright. Take a step back. Even assuming Obama's use of a teleprompter makes these two situations even - which it doesn't - using that defense isn't doing you in favors. Namely, if we grant the premise that the two situations are equal, and you have ever criticized Obama for his use of a teleprompter, you must therefore criticize Palin for this high school stunt. You cannot have it both ways, and you certainly cannot use someone you've criticized as a tool to defend someone you happen to agree with.

                And again, that relies on the premise that the two situations are perfectly equal to begin with.

                • 30 votes
                Reply#4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:52 PM EST
                millerb-1023348

                please--I am no fan of Obama , but this woman is really an idiot. PWT is totally correct--she is the result of years and years of anti-intellectualism. She has nothing to say, so she wouldn't need a teleprompter.

                • 28 votes
                #4.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:13 PM EST
                Bubba-939441

                "this woman is really an idiot"

                After 3 more yrs of Obama an idiot will have a good chance of defeating Obama in the next presidential election. A few southern and western swing states could easily swing toward the idiot.

                • 1 vote
                #4.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:05 PM EST
                njb

                Well if folks are stupid enough to believe her, they get the president they vote for. Just don't say no one warned you....

                • 10 votes
                #4.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:07 PM EST
                Paragon Fury

                Honestly, a Palin presidency would be the thing that finally makes me leave America.

                It wouldn't be a opinion vs opinion, like or dislike, better suited or not thing then. I could deal with that.

                But Palin getting elected would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that America has fallen so far from anything it stood for that our Founder's would rise from their graves to hunt down and execute Palin.

                Palin is the anti-thesis of everything women, men, chimpazees and farm animals everywhere have been working for.

                • 17 votes
                #4.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:33 PM EST
                determined0a1

                Von Boyage.

                • 1 vote
                #4.5 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:00 AM EST
                CuriousG

                Well if folks are stupid enough to believe her, they get the president they vote for. Just don't say no one warned you....

                America fell for that one with W, no thank you.

                • 6 votes
                #4.6 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:08 AM EST
                xcomunic8ed

                America fell for that one with W

                twice

                • 3 votes
                #4.7 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:32 AM EST
                Paragon Fury

                determined, you honestly think she is going to get elected? By what unholy act do you see this coming to be?

                My hope for America has faded a bit over time, but I didn't anything or anyone had sunk that low that we're actually considering someone who may very well qualify as mentally handicapped to be our President.

                • 5 votes
                #4.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:37 AM EST
                Reply
                alaskalady

                Thank you for this article.

                • 16 votes
                Reply#5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:54 PM EST
                Paul William Tenny

                You're welcome.

                • 7 votes
                #5.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:06 PM EST
                Jerry Verlinger

                Von Boyage.

                You going somewhere determined?

                • 2 votes
                #5.2 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:09 AM EST
                CuriousG

                We can only hope!

                • 2 votes
                #5.3 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 9:58 AM EST
                Reply
                sushicat

                Are you sure this really isn't a movie and someone forgot to tell us? Maybe the sequel to Dumb and Dumber, only they needed a female to play the role?

                • 17 votes
                Reply#6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:59 PM EST
                rickace

                sushicat

                Are you sure this really isn't a movie and someone forgot to tell us?

                It is, actually.

                Maybe the sequel to Dumb and Dumber, only they needed a female to play the role?

                Yup. Alongside Barack Obama. Sarah's playing the role of "dumb".

                • 1 vote
                #6.1 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 6:08 PM EST
                Reply
                J. W. Welch

                The belated discovery by teabaggers of teleprompters must have been quite a revelation.

                God only knows what their reaction will be when they confront laptops, blackberrys, cell phones and all the other electronic gizmos of today. They'll probably call them part of a leftist (or maybe alien) conspiracy.

                Maybe they do have some valid points; regretably those points are obscured by focusing on nonsense such as the use of teleprompters, a call to revolution, "I want my country back", "keep your government hands off my medicare" , "they are out to destroy America" and the rest of their aimless mumbo jumbo.

                Sarah Palin is the perfect pinup for the party of nowhere.

                • 19 votes
                Reply#7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:12 PM EST
                RNoel-525230

                God only knows what their reaction will be when they confront laptops, blackberrys, cell phones and all the other electronic gizmos of today. They'll probably call them part of a leftist (or maybe alien) conspiracy.

                My guess is that they'll call the technology witchcraft and throw it down a well. If the technology floats, then the device must weigh the same as a duck and is made out of wood, so it is therefore a witch and must be burned at the stake. If it sinks like a stone, then it's not a witch and can be used as a makeshift teleprompter.

                • 17 votes
                #7.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:39 PM EST
                common sense-353470

                Like McCain said I dont know about the internets.

                But now he's tweeting?

                • 10 votes
                #7.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:39 PM EST
                s.harris96

                Sarah Palin is the perfect pinup for the party of nowhere.

                Be careful, people! For a nowhere bunch, they get their collective foot in the door far, far too often in my book. Really stupid and really reactionary appears to play well in our country.

                • 10 votes
                #7.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:07 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                Exactly.

                She's a pin-up.

                And what do men do with pin-up's?

                She's kitch.

                She's niche.

                She's novelty.

                Pre-packaged MRB (Moron Ready to Bitch)

                • 5 votes
                #7.4 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 8:43 AM EST
                determined0a1

                Greener and greener.

                • 1 vote
                #7.5 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:02 AM EST
                Reply
                alaskalady

                To me , the use of her hand to write on...is an example of a last century candidate with last century methods of prompting. LOL

                • 13 votes
                Reply#8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:14 PM EST
                analog ninja

                pretty sure last centuries candidates had enough brain power memorize speeches and know their talking points without need of scribbled notes, well at least prior to tv...

                • 14 votes
                #8.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:51 PM EST
                bonos_rama

                Oh man. This would make for a great campaign commercial. Show footage of palin scoffing at the use of teleprompters; then show her stealing peeks at her hand. Lastly, show clips of the high-tech weaponry and machinery used by the military and ask which in which candidate's hands do you feel comfortable leaving the security of our country. The one who fears technology or the one that embraces it?

                • 25 votes
                #8.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:54 PM EST
                alaskalady

                ooh good idea!

                • 12 votes
                #8.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:57 PM EST
                common sense-353470

                Not only that but what if that godless Levi Johnson sneaks in and writes something on her hand just before she gives a speech?

                • 7 votes
                #8.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:42 PM EST
                Ms. B

                bonos_rama

                this was a great response and can I tweet this? I have to cut down to 140 char...but it is great! Thanks also for this feed but you know that the repubs will discount it as bashing for it is better than tech..

                • 5 votes
                #8.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:55 PM EST
                bonos_rama

                Of course you can tweet it! Thanks!

                • 2 votes
                #8.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:56 PM EST
                Reply
                ScienceGuy-356641

                The historical lesson of the twice-elected GWB is that, in America, any knucklehead can grow to become President of the United States.

                Palin hopes to capitalize on that precedent.

                • 11 votes
                Reply#9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:36 PM EST
                sushicat

                All I can think of is that the cheat sheet on her hand worked for her when she was in High School (and probably the reason she doesn't know anything today), and being successful then it was a good idea to repeat her past successes today.

                • 8 votes
                #9.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:59 PM EST
                s.harris96

                The historical lesson of the twice-elected GWB is that, in America, any knucklehead can grow to become President of the United States.

                And it shall be known forevermore as--'The Legend of the Precedent Presidents.' Isn't that almost as cute as she thinks the things she says are???

                • 4 votes
                #9.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:18 PM EST
                Reply
                Paragon Fury

                Waitwaitwaitwait.......she can read?!

                • 11 votes
                Reply#10 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:56 PM EST
                Joe-392005

                The picture as I see it is fake. It does not match the real video which shows her hand in an upside down semi cupped state. I watched it. Whether or not she was reading or just looking, I can't be sure but I am fairly sure the picture shown is probably faked and if so, this article should be collasped on that ground. Moral, always be sure of your source.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#11 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:57 PM EST
                LadySaidy

                The photo shown above is from earlier when she was at the podium, not when she was seated during the Q&A.

                • 8 votes
                #11.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:18 PM EST
                VerbalBarb

                The photo shown above is from earlier when she was at the podium, not when she was seated during the Q&A.

                I think I got a little confused over that, too, as another seed was talking about her "cheating" during the Q&A.

                • 9 votes
                #11.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:26 PM EST
                alaskalady

                Joe...were you really looking at her"hand" during her speech? Hmmmmmm???

                • 7 votes
                #11.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:12 PM EST
                Paragon Fury

                No. I was trying to find something less ugly to look at.

                • 3 votes
                #11.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:37 PM EST
                Joe-392005

                To veriify this, the complete video clip should be shown. I watcted the speech and cannot recall seeing this. She already had notes on podium. Notced also PWT hasn't been back to back up the picture.

                • 1 vote
                #11.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:10 PM EST
                VerbalBarb

                To veriify this, the complete video clip should be shown. I watcted the speech and cannot recall seeing this. She already had notes on podium.

                Yes, but she read off her hand during the Q&A.

                I agree, though, that someone should tell us at what time during the speech the writing showed up. I'm not going to sit through that just to try to find it.

                • 4 votes
                #11.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:20 PM EST
                ohiogal-479871

                http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/02/06/sarah-palin-caught-reading-her-speech-off-her-hand/

                I don't know that video clip is pretty damn obvious. Hard to fake something on Live t.v.

                • 5 votes
                #11.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:02 PM EST
                Paul William Tenny

                To veriify this, the complete video clip should be shown. I watcted the speech and cannot recall seeing this. She already had notes on podium. Notced also PWT hasn't been back to back up the picture.

                Picture one.
                Picture two.
                Picture three.
                Google News results.

                Thanks for questioning my integrity with absolutely no freaking proof. I really appreciate that.

                • 7 votes
                #11.8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:24 PM EST
                The_Advocate

                Thanks for questioning my integrity with absolutely no freaking proof. I really appreciate that

                Busted!

                Those who live by the sword, die by the sword: Those who live by bashing, even misogynists, die by bashing! ;o)

                • 1 vote
                #11.9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:56 PM EST
                Jerry Verlinger

                Picture three shows the crib notes on her outstretched hand during her speech, but she was reading them in picture one, during the phony Q & A session. (Note the ugly red backdrop that was to her left during the Q & A)

                My question is, how do you write crib notes if your going to take questions after a speech, unless you know what the questions are going to be?

                That Q & A session was as phony as the rest of the so called "convention". IMO it was nothing more than a collection of Right Wing Fringenuts that don't want to be called Conservatives and are too embarrassed to admit they are Republicans.

                • 4 votes
                #11.10 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:20 AM EST
                alaskalady

                The most frustrating thing to me is that folks who want to like her will never believe what the rest of us knows...they will always claim it is doctored or made up.......ouch.

                • 4 votes
                #11.11 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:42 AM EST
                CuriousG

                Here's why they won't, or don't want to, believe the rest of us...

                The Power of Political Misinformation

                • 3 votes
                #11.12 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:00 AM EST
                Reply
                njb

                I just finished the book Game Change about an hour before Palin's speech....oh boy...she is so stupid that even many of Rove's former staffers were open about the fact that after they met her--they were voting Obama.

                I tried to watch her speech--but I could not follow it because it made no sense. She trashed Obama but other than that, what did she really say of substance? Nothing.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#12 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:56 PM EST
                CuriousG

                what did she really say of substance? Nothing.

                That would be because there is no substance, none.

                • 3 votes
                #12.1 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:14 AM EST
                Reply
                VerbalBarb

                You know, maybe this is another way that right-wingers have backed themselves into corners. They've made fun of Obama using a teleprompter, so how can they use them without looking like hypocrites. So, instead, they right cheat-notes on their hands to try to hide the fact they need reminders. lol

                This could be the start of a trend for anyone who makes fun of teleprompter use.

                • 11 votes
                Reply#13 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:03 PM EST
                VerbalBarb

                (Correction of #13 - I couldn't get the edit to work)

                You know, maybe this is another way that right-wingers have backed themselves into corners. They've made fun of Obama using a teleprompter, so how can they use them without looking like hypocrites. So, instead, they write cheat-notes on their hands to try to hide the fact they need reminders. lol

                This could be the start of a trend for anyone who makes fun of teleprompter use.

                • 9 votes
                #13.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:09 PM EST
                s.harris96

                I will never forget the humiliating sight on that March night so long ago when he stood, stoned to the gills, at a podium with that poopy smirk on his face and sent us to war in Iraq. He could hardly pronounce the words (less adept, even, than usual).

                It was humiliating simply because he was our president and that is what the world saw as well. I love my country, but these people have almost destroyed it.

                For me, the republican party and Joe Lieberman are no better than pirates.

                • 6 votes
                #13.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:31 PM EST
                The_Advocate

                VerbalBarb (Correction of #13 - I couldn't get the edit to work)

                Heaven help you if you ever need a teleprompter! ;o)

                • 1 vote
                #13.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:05 PM EST
                VerbalBarb

                Heaven help you if you ever need a teleprompter! ;o)

                With my eyesight, it probably wouldn't do me any good. ;0)

                • 1 vote
                #13.4 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:06 AM EST
                Reply
                Rick_VT

                My question... did she write the notes herself OR did one of her handlers write them for her?

                • 7 votes
                Reply#14 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:31 PM EST
                CuriousG

                Not sure, but whoever wrote them screwed up.

                Note the crossed out word 'budget', when they meant 'tax'.

                What a Freudian slip, she wrote budget cuts before writing tax cuts!

                • 4 votes
                #14.1 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:17 AM EST
                jmorris

                Yeah it just shows what the real important issues are to the Republicans/Tea Partiers.

                It's not the budget, it's tax cuts for the wealthy. Always has been and always will be. All this talk about deficits and "trillions left for our children to pay" is just BS to mask taking more money from the middle class and giving it to the rich.

                • 2 votes
                #14.2 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 6:46 AM EST
                determined0a1

                Sarah Palin plays the left like a fine violinist. Speeches are forgotten but.....her writing on her hand don't.

                Well done, Mrs. Palin.

                • 1 vote
                #14.3 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 11:11 AM EST
                jmorris

                Sarah Palin plays the left like a fine violinist. Speeches are forgotten but.....her writing on her hand don't.

                That's because the moron used permanent marker.

                • 3 votes
                #14.4 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 4:47 PM EST
                determined0a1

                That's because the moron used permanent marker.

                The "moron" knew what she was doing. Still the discussion about her hand writing.

                Anyone remembers the last lecture of our gracious President? No.

                • 1 vote
                #14.5 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:22 PM EST
                Reply
                Rick_VT

                My question... did she write the notes herself OR did one of her handlers write them for her?

                Probably the best thing the Republicans could possibly do to regain credibility and distance themselves from being seen so much as the "Party of the Stupid" would be to publicly come out and toss her off the crazy bus completely - to make an official statement that Sarah Palin IS NOT being considered in any way for the number one slot on the Republican ticket in 2012.

                This would leave her standing alone at the bus stop of failure and waiting to see if the Tea Bag Express picks her up for their totally doomed run into the political abyss.

                Is the Republican Party smart enough or will they sell out?

                • 5 votes
                Reply#15 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:38 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                ......reduced to writing notes on her palmprompter.....

                And she failed even with that.

                fail.

                • 8 votes
                Reply#16 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:44 PM EST
                ScienceGuy-356641

                In Alaska, writing crib notes on your hand is their interpretation of using digital media.

                • 10 votes
                Reply#17 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:00 PM EST
                alaskalady

                i don't get it...lol

                • 6 votes
                #17.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:05 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                teleprompter - digital media

                palm writing - not

                • 6 votes
                #17.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:09 PM EST
                Rick_VT

                Finger painting = digital media

                • 9 votes
                #17.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:13 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                LOL Rick.

                • 4 votes
                #17.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:37 PM EST
                dcstone01

                alaskalady...lol...

                lol...

                Ok...I'll spell it out using an analogy...

                When my baby was born my question was 'does she have all her digits?'...I don't think the Dr.'s and nurse's were used to hearing that because they looked at each other and looked at me startled...they usually hear "Does she have all her fingers and toes?"

                So..."Digits", as in... the root of "digital"....

                • 6 votes
                #17.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:43 PM EST
                alaskalady

                Thanks for 'Splainin it to me......lol

                • 1 vote
                #17.6 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:02 PM EST
                Reply
                lifeisgood43

                Wow people mean what can we say about Palin that hasn't been said. She just keeps giving us ammo to use against her. For real that this woman had to write stuff on her hand and then tried to cross a word out. The Tea Party paid 100,000 for that crap. As an American, I ashamed to leave the country, knowing that the other people in the world would walk up to you and say something like, "Are you Americans really going to let Palin be your Pres" ?

                • 6 votes
                Reply#18 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:48 PM EST
                Jerry Verlinger

                ".....what can we say about Palin that hasn't been said"

                Don't tempt me, Newsvine is pretty strict about the use of profanity.

                • 4 votes
                #18.1 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:31 AM EST
                Reply
                Lynne from IL

                Now I understand why Sarah didn't discuss what 'she' would do....not enough room on her hands. Bashing the sitting President is a no-brainer, she fits the bill perfectly.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#19 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:52 PM EST
                ohiogal-479871

                I do believe this is the last nail in her 2012 coffin. She'll never survive a campaign ad featuring this.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#20 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:56 PM EST
                dcstone01

                Well, not this article...but the one I link here should REALLY do it....(if you haven't seen it yet)

                http://robertbartholomew.newsvine.com/_news/2010/02/07/3866313-palin-obama-could-win-reelection-if-he-played-the-war-card-and-declared-war-on-iran-

                • 7 votes
                #20.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:08 PM EST
                Reply
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                One thing is making someone look stupid and another is failing but making yourself look dumber than the person you're trying to insult.

                Hammer? Meet nail. Nail? Meet hammer.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#21 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:58 PM EST
                lifeisgood43

                Golden... you are still hot. You are to hot to touch. Ouch. lol

                But to be non-funny, you are so right. Palin tried her best to crap on Pres Obama and yet, SNL has new Palin material

                • 3 votes
                #21.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:24 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                Life you are quite the flatterer aren't you?! :)

                Very sweet :)

                She should aspire to give us material to support her not SNL

                :)

                • 3 votes
                #21.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:32 PM EST
                CuriousG

                One thing is making someone look stupid and another is failing but making yourself look dumber than the person you're trying to insult.

                She's only following the lead of the Republicans last great leader Bush "Fool Me Once...".

                • 3 votes
                #21.3 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:20 AM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                Yes, the Decider.

                Funny how Obama is called "The Messiah" when he sure as hell never called himself anything but President.......yet their Lord and mister in knickers called himself.....

                The Decider.

                • 5 votes
                #21.4 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:59 PM EST
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                jfdghtgfDeleted
                hwoodude

                Hey, what's wrong with writing stuff on your hands? Imagine if she'd done that when asked what magazines she read...or her favorite Supreme court decision...she and McCain would be in office! Remember Sarah went to four different colleges to get a degree..'and oh, by the way, why were her grades never disclosed during the presidentil race? Or McCains's? Ifshehasnotes on both pals..whats left...hey, how about crib notes on the frames of her glasses? Yeah..you go , girl!

                • 2 votes
                Reply#23 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:36 PM EST
                Slinger-958418

                How do we know she graduated?

                • 2 votes
                #23.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:59 PM EST
                ohiogal-479871

                How do we know she graduated?

                With a degree in journalism, you would think they would have covered the proper way to interview. Or maybe they did and she didn't learn it because she just wrote all the answers on her hand.

                • 1 vote
                #23.2 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:35 AM EST
                Reply
                R u wearing ur cowhead?

                I looked at Newsvine today and there are at least 6 articles on Sarah Palin....why do people continue to write and talk about her? She may be a moron, but what does that say about the people who spend their time talking, reading and writing about her and following her every move?

                • 1 vote
                #24 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:35 PM EST
                Paragon Fury

                Because she insists on trying to be relevant - we're only indulging her while having some fun of our own.

                • 5 votes
                #24.1 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:32 AM EST
                Paul William Tenny

                I didn't write about Sarah Palin, I wrote about conservative anti-intellectualism coming home to roost as I have done several times previously. I can't speak for anyone else.

                • 6 votes
                #24.2 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:39 AM EST
                The_Advocate

                R u : why do people continue to write and talk about her? She may be a moron, but what does that say about the people who spend their time talking, reading and writing about her and following her every move?

                It's really strange, but haven't people been saying this about Lady Gaga, too?

                • 1 vote
                #24.3 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:49 AM EST
                ohiogal-479871

                She may be a moron, but what does that say about the people who spend their time talking, reading and writing about her and following her every move?

                And yet here you are making a comment.

                Priceless.

                • 8 votes
                #24.4 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:37 AM EST
                Scott-377513

                Oh good one, voted up!!!

                • 1 vote
                #24.5 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:47 AM EST
                Paul William Tenny

                It's really strange, but haven't people been saying this about Lady Gaga, too?

                Confession: I think Bad Romance is one of the ballsiest videos I've seen in a long time, and Stefani can be very pretty when she wants to be. She's got a lot of heart, and that matters to me a great deal.

                • 5 votes
                #24.6 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:02 AM EST
                VerbalBarb

                She may be a moron, but what does that say about the people who spend their time talking, reading and writing about her and following her every move?

                I'd call them people fortunate (or could be unfortunate, depending on the reason) to have some spare time on their hands, and people who recognize a good joke when they see one.

                • 7 votes
                #24.7 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:37 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                Ohio-san, nan da koitsu? Ahondara ya de! Baka jan desu!

                ;)


                • 5 votes
                #24.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:44 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                Ohio-san,

                Nan da koitsu? Ahondara ya de!

                Baka jan desu!

                ;)


                • 5 votes
                #24.9 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:45 PM EST
                ohiogal-479871

                LMFAO!

                Soo desu ne!

                bon'yari shi-ta no kotoba kara, kare jooku desu yo!.

                • 2 votes
                #24.10 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:19 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                Boke! Urusai, kono bakayaro!

                Grr! enough already

                lol


                • 4 votes
                #24.11 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:52 PM EST
                VerbalBarb

                Ohio-san, nan da koitsu? Ahondara ya de! Baka jan desu!

                I think I actually figure out the gist of that. lol

                • 4 votes
                #24.12 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:54 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                LOL Verbal.

                Look at is a verbal eye roll with a bit of bunch but not as bad as the hand gesture I was using.

                We were speaking about one of the resident brain trusts ;)

                • 5 votes
                #24.13 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 4:00 PM EST
                VerbalBarb

                We were speaking about one of the resident brain trusts ;)

                I figured that out and learned some slang that's other than English. lol

                • 5 votes
                #24.14 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 5:11 PM EST
                GoldenGateMami_Susi

                :) VerbalBarb.

                Shh! Keep that a secret. Foreign languages are bad!

                lol

                • 5 votes
                #24.15 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 5:43 PM EST
                R u wearing ur cowhead?

                Wow!!! So many replies to my one little comment ..... I guess she does rattle a lot of people after all.....

                  #24.16 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 6:58 PM EST
                  ohiogal-479871

                  watashi-tashi wa nihongo wo renshuu suru no ga ureshii desu dake.

                  Just wait until I learn a little more spanish ;) Then we'll be speaking japspanglish all over NV.

                  *ducking tyler of course*

                  figured that out and learned some slang that's other than English

                  Barb- thats the best kind :)

                  • 3 votes
                  #24.17 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:00 PM EST
                  ohiogal-479871

                  Wow!!! So many replies to my one little comment ..... I guess she does rattle a lot of people after all.....

                  Wow! And I guess we rattle you. Funny how that works.

                  • 2 votes
                  #24.18 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:03 PM EST
                  VerbalBarb

                  Wow!!! So many replies to my one little comment .....

                  You didn't make a comment, you asked two question? Do you think it's odd that people are answering them?

                  And at least 10 of the comments have nothing to do with your post. lol

                  • 3 votes
                  #24.19 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:13 PM EST
                  GoldenGateMami_Susi

                  Hai! so desu! Watashi wa sore o manabou to doryoku @!$%#eimasu. Sou naran to negau.

                  Daijobu! Watashi ga oshiemasu, iiyo?

                  I speak Spanish we can trade off.

                  Spanihongo!

                  ;)


                  • 2 votes
                  #24.20 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:17 PM EST
                  R u wearing ur cowhead?

                  and I guess I could say the same for you Ohiogal, since you did reply....again.....

                    #24.21 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:23 PM EST
                    Reply
                    alaskalady

                    That we are frustrated?

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#25 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:45 PM EST
                    Rick_VT

                    As president she'd have to go to bed every night with notes written on her hand telling her what to do if the red phone rings.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#26 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:49 AM EST
                    lifeisgood43

                    Rick..... Ha ha ha ha ha. You too are on a roll

                    • 2 votes
                    #26.1 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:58 AM EST
                    abacass

                    Now that's being silly I'm sure they would just put a post it note on the red phone..

                    In fact there would be so many post it notes in the White House the damn thing would start to look like it was scene out of Alice in Wonderland.

                    • 2 votes
                    #26.2 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:03 AM EST
                    GoldenGateMami_Susi

                    Well those who live by the palm shall perish by it.

                    She's half-way there.

                    • 2 votes
                    #26.3 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:05 AM EST
                    The_Advocate

                    Well those who live by the palm shall perish by it.

                    And those who live by the Ipod?

                    • 1 vote
                    #26.4 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 1:42 AM EST
                    GoldenGateMami_Susi

                    will fall on deaf ears.

                    ;)

                    • 2 votes
                    #26.5 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:03 AM EST
                    alaskalady

                    you guys crack me up......better than TV

                    • 2 votes
                    #26.6 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:57 AM EST
                    ohiogal-479871

                    Now that's being silly I'm sure they would just put a post it note on the red phone..

                    But then they'd have to write on her hand where to find the red phone.

                    In fact there would be so many post it notes in the White House the damn thing would start to look like it was scene out of Alice in Wonderland.

                    Now thats being silly. I'm sure if Palin knew what a post it was, she wouldn't have written on her hand ;)

                    • 1 vote
                    #26.7 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:41 AM EST
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